tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post9002210297546433402..comments2024-03-05T19:35:48.700-08:00Comments on Booktalk & More: Downton Abbey Series 4, Part 1Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-3024356861873901492014-01-13T06:45:08.989-08:002014-01-13T06:45:08.989-08:00@Lori - Yay for more Mary appreciation!! ;)
I rea...@Lori - Yay for more Mary appreciation!! ;)<br /><br />I really do hope Fellowes and ITV wrap up Downton before it goes on too long...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-20510411209603471412014-01-11T21:16:25.418-08:002014-01-11T21:16:25.418-08:00Just now read your review...I agree with about Mar...Just now read your review...I agree with about Mary. She's kind of a tough character to love but she's really grown on me and I do really like her. I thought he performance was spot on. <br /><br />You are also spot on about there needing to be a backstory about Violet. That is exactly the sort of spinoff they need if Downton ends next season!<br /><br />I also love Branson so much more this season.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13526569454787709981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-31543399948739377712014-01-07T09:59:40.908-08:002014-01-07T09:59:40.908-08:00@Rissi - Oh I don't really miss her any more t...@Rissi - Oh I don't really miss her any more than I miss Matthew...but she was a fun character to hate every week. ;) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-61082788176757581452014-01-07T09:36:12.459-08:002014-01-07T09:36:12.459-08:00...sorry, I feel no loss over O'Brien to thos......sorry, I feel no loss over O'Brien to those that miss her. ;) There is still plenty of scheming with Thomas (that dude knows how to play the cards) and while, yes, it's sad, I actually appreciated the somber beginnings because it'd have otherwise been unrealistic for things to be "normal" after such a loss. SUPER glad you liked it, Ruth despite the cliches, and the like. :)Rissihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11378400717440822186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-52936729684662534802014-01-07T08:12:21.428-08:002014-01-07T08:12:21.428-08:00@Debra - Yep. Honestly, I was surprised at how lit...@Debra - Yep. Honestly, I was surprised at how little I missed his presence, lol! ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-30104547909064306892014-01-07T08:08:54.144-08:002014-01-07T08:08:54.144-08:00yes. I think that knowing Matthew was out at the e...yes. I think that knowing Matthew was out at the end of the season made their scenes more bitter sweet and then I avoided that SCREAMING SHOCK that came in the last minute of the season!<br /><br />Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-53949969228979514142014-01-07T07:11:04.709-08:002014-01-07T07:11:04.709-08:00@Debra - I hear that. If it's what's comin...@Debra - I hear that. If it's what's coming this week, I'm actually glad I know. That's not a "surprise" I'd want to go into cold. :PAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-58829177500243243652014-01-07T07:04:33.924-08:002014-01-07T07:04:33.924-08:00I learned my lessons, Ruth.
I stay off twitter on ...I learned my lessons, Ruth.<br />I stay off twitter on Sunday night, and I avoid many spoilers during the fall.<br /><br />Did catch one though... a big one. You may know it too. I love having the international aspect of my social media but spoilers are so difficult to avoid!<br /><br />Both the new upstairs men are quite dishy!Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-56796866180115334202014-01-07T06:51:27.824-08:002014-01-07T06:51:27.824-08:00@Debra - No, I have heard that and I think I'v...@Debra - No, I have heard that and I think I've seen some pictures. It is so hard to stay completely spoiler-free when this began to air in the UK months ago!! <br /><br />Keeping my fingers crossed for Mary's new love interests as well...I do hope they are tough...they'll need it. ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-79196910474299998742014-01-07T06:49:18.347-08:002014-01-07T06:49:18.347-08:00there IS a new male servant coming which is bound ...there IS a new male servant coming which is bound to mess up the love quadrangle!! hoping for the best for Daisy!<br />That's not a spoiler I hope... it's been on the previews.<br /><br />I am personally quite ready for a nice strong willed male lead that Mary won't run roughshod over. Matthew had his place and their love story still brings me to tears (I cry every time they sing together in S2) but I'm looking forward to new fireworks!<br />Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-28581813876452741422014-01-07T06:42:41.933-08:002014-01-07T06:42:41.933-08:00@Jennifer - Oh good! :) I think the post-partum de...@Jennifer - Oh good! :) I think the post-partum depression thing is probably spot-on...that plus depression over losing your husband? How awful. :( And I hadn't really thought about her relationship w/ Carson in those terms, but you are so right...he's the warm father figure I think she's probably always craved, but lacked when it comes to her relationship w/ Robert.<br /><br />Poor O'Brien...I hope she's having fun in India... ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-63572127622737933622014-01-07T06:39:43.157-08:002014-01-07T06:39:43.157-08:00I don't think you left anything out. :) I read...I don't think you left anything out. :) I read someone's interpretation of Mary in this episode as a woman suffering from post-partum depression, which is probably true considering her lifelessness and comments about not being a good mother. I've never liked her, honestly, but the scenes with her and Carson were so good. I like how they keep juxtaposing her relationship with her father and her relationship with Carson. Insightful.<br /><br />I was highly annoyed by Daisy in previous episodes, but I liked her a lot in this one. And I've <i>always</i> loved Ms. Patmore. Edna is so annoying; you are correct, her and Thomas's conniving is such a poor knock off of the O'Brien-Thomas shenanigans. O'Brien bugged me, but I kind of miss her. And I miss her bangs!<br /><br />And, waiting a week between episodes isn't so bad. More time to process. ;)Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13337500567333475158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-7744647370270087382014-01-07T06:13:17.699-08:002014-01-07T06:13:17.699-08:00@Kristin - Oh gosh I kinda forgot about that maid!...@Kristin - Oh gosh I kinda forgot about that maid!! I wonder if she'll ever make a re-appearance (it would be fun to see Gwen from season one again -- but even if we never do, it was cool to hear her get a shout-out!).<br /><br />I am with you on the Alfred thing -- I'm kinda hoping that someone completely new and awesome comes in and sweeps Daisy off her feet at some point. <br /><br />I couldn't agree with you more about Carson being the best person for Mary to finally break down with -- as hard as their first "fight" was to watch, the later apology was beautifully played...so much depth and honesty between those two characters! Loved it!<br /><br />Edith's head scarf was amazing!! I wish I could pull that off. ;)<br /><br />And thank you!! :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-75664831452073336452014-01-07T06:08:14.761-08:002014-01-07T06:08:14.761-08:00I don't like Edna at all, either. Honestly, un...I don't like Edna at all, either. Honestly, until they brought Branson in to explain the situation to him, I thought that she was the war widow maid that Robert kissed! And I was thinking, Cora, you're hiring someone who's going to ruin your marriage. Yeah...I don't know why I didn't recognize her. I just rewatched the whole series last month! :)<br /><br />Daisy is so awesome, but she really needs a real love interest. I'm still hoping for Alfred, though I like him less and less since he's so smitten with Ivy.<br /><br />Oh no! I'm not ready for more Bates/Anna unhappiness. I have thankfully avoided all spoilers for this season (so far), so I have no idea what's coming.<br /><br />I was totally not expecting the Nanny to actually be cruel, either! I definitely took her side over Thomas' until that scene. What she was saying to Sybbie made me angrier than anything in Downton Abbey ever has before, strangely enough...I just kept thinking about how scarred that poor little girl would be if she had kept growing up with someone telling her that garbage. <br /><br />I hated zombie-Mary...I just wanted her to yell or cry or something! Exploding would have been better than the fog she was in. I'm glad that when she finally broke down, it was with Carson. He was the best person it could have happened with, and that scene was so sweet. <br /><br />Edith does really rock 20s fashions. I loved how she pulled off that bright head scarf at the party. :) I also feel like there's no way that relationship can end well.<br /><br />Awesome recap, Ruth! It's almost like watching the episode again. :)Kristinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592919145644124930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-44676030017375982022014-01-07T05:50:18.678-08:002014-01-07T05:50:18.678-08:00@Tasha - All I can say is BRACE YOURSELF. I think ...@Tasha - All I can say is BRACE YOURSELF. I think the other shoe for Happy Bates drops in this week's episode.<br /><br />@Anne - Great minds, hmm? ;) And wasn't Violet just on fire? Loved that!!<br /><br />@Jack - Yep, Maggie Smith is still with us in real life and on the show...I had to look up how old she is though -- she's 80, I would think that is about her age on the show? Anyways, she's been on it all for seasons, since the beginning!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-71529224230177421012014-01-07T05:12:27.342-08:002014-01-07T05:12:27.342-08:00That one lady from Harry Potter is still alive? (I... That one lady from Harry Potter is still alive? (In the show I mean. Not in real life, I know she's not that old in real life.) How many seasons has she been there? She is the only character who has any interest for me, to be honest. If I ever got around to watch the show it would be for herJackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04395502314886308773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-21235663100115233152014-01-07T05:09:45.090-08:002014-01-07T05:09:45.090-08:00You said so many things that were EXACTLY what I w...You said so many things that were EXACTLY what I was thinking when I watched it! I want to slap Cora every time she believes one of the servants without question. I totally did not see it coming that Thomas was actually RIGHT about the Nanny--and was glad Cora defended "the chauffeur's daughter." I'm so glad Mary snapped out of it by the end. She was really getting on my nerves, as was Lord Grantham. I loved it when Violet asked him if she should call Nanny to give him some milk and put him to bed! <br /><br />Poor Moseley! I felt so sorry for the guy! And Edna? Words cannot describe how much I hate her--especially her and Thomas in cahoots against sweet Anna, though I fear Rose will get Anna in trouble, too. Mrs. P is so awesome to Daisy. <br /><br />Looking forward to settling into the story over the next few weeks. <br /><br />On last note--little Sybbie is Adorable!!! (And so happy her daddy has settled in at Downton, too.) Anne Mateerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11330467138236037032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-39779902681956632642014-01-06T20:44:40.670-08:002014-01-06T20:44:40.670-08:00I enjoyed it too. And Mary was totally a zombie. :...I enjoyed it too. And Mary was totally a zombie. :p<br /><br />I hope the show has more Rose and Branson in future eps. They at least have fresh stories to tell while others (like Bates and Anna) seem to winding down. I don't know what happens, but I do know Happy Bates can't last long.Heidenkindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09494625457587427781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-19202244385141269492014-01-06T17:18:42.004-08:002014-01-06T17:18:42.004-08:00@Debra - LOL! As far as Cora goes...well I can see...@Debra - LOL! As far as Cora goes...well I can see Thomas having a lot of credit after being proved right about the Nanny. I mean that's her grandkids...that would be HUGE compared to a squabble between maids.<br /><br />I cannot STAND Edna. I think she is, in many respects, more of a manipulator than O'Brien or Thomas because she's subtler...targeting based on emotional need.<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-77487000084162830252014-01-06T16:35:21.687-08:002014-01-06T16:35:21.687-08:00I guess I'm used to Robert being a horse's...I guess I'm used to Robert being a horse's backside at times but Cora's Mama Bear Moment did not make up for the fact she is favoring Thomas over Anna. I'm still ticked. <br /><br />Of course, we have to have conflict and 'bad things happen to good people' but CORA!!! wake up!!<br /><br />The downstairs gang is really going all "Liberty Hall" on us. Anna, in all her thoughtfulness, is playing right into Thomas's game. <br />You know... I used to think Edna was on the fence. I gave her a lot of slack for crushing on Tom. (Right?) but if she is the new O'Brien, she is the slicker version because she looks so sweet. Much more frightening than OBrien's Bangs!<br /><br />thanks for the replay! always fun to dish!<br />Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.com