tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post7443423832881445480..comments2024-03-05T19:35:48.700-08:00Comments on Booktalk & More: Downton Abbey Series 2, Part 5Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-91599786986429757822012-02-08T13:37:49.511-08:002012-02-08T13:37:49.511-08:00@Lori - The only thing I can think with Isobel is ...@Lori - The only thing I can think with Isobel is that she's become rather puffed up with self-importance as the mother of Downton's heir. But that theory admittedly only holds water to a certain point.<br /><br />However I can't complain too much when Maggie Smith was so hilarious in that conversation. :)<br /><br />Looking forward to the next two weeks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-1838495150141395112012-02-08T11:56:23.442-08:002012-02-08T11:56:23.442-08:00I have to agree with Debra about it being out of c...I have to agree with Debra about it being out of character for Isobel to fall for Violet's shenanigans. She always suspected Violet of some mischief last season. She's really done a 180 and become rather annoying. However, I did love Maggie Smith in that exchange. I think her best quip ever is in the last episode (the Christmas special). Ruth, considering your emotional investment in the Mary/Matthew plotline, you will LOVE it too!Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13526569454787709981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-46120131127582509792012-02-08T09:58:29.004-08:002012-02-08T09:58:29.004-08:00@Rissi - I'm leaning towards NO as well right ...@Rissi - I'm leaning towards NO as well right this second, but who knows which way Fellowes will take this thing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)<br /><br />@Kristin - Come back and discuss! :) I know what you mean about the online streaming...it seems that PBS's platform leaves something to be desired.<br /><br />I don't know what the deal is with the DVD release...my preorder is arriving from Amazon today, but I'm going to hold off. I managed to do it with season 1 so we'll see how that goes. :)<br /><br />@247Mama - Isobel is so out of it this season! LOL! And Robert...yeesh he does need to be smacked upside the head. I think Richard's kiss was one of the creepiest moments I've ever seen on film! <br /><br />@Joni - His hotness cannot be denied! ;)<br /><br />@Debra - I know, right?! Amazing! :)<br /><br />Isobel has become quite wrapped up in herself this season...she's taken the reins and run with everything. Does seem a bit much!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-28629793974614269952012-02-07T16:29:06.840-08:002012-02-07T16:29:06.840-08:00Okay, I believe Branson had his collar open and, g...Okay, I believe Branson had his collar open and, gosh, we just aren't used to that much skin!<br /><br />I've felt he's been totally selfish this season. Of course, she just keeps going to the garage, so he knows she's hooked. Sigh.<br /><br />The other thing that's been bugging me is how they sort of made Isobel a bit ridiculous. I've really liked her though of course she was getting way to bossy, but it felt out of character for her to be so taken in by Violet. Since when are they just hanging out having tea? I didn't buy it. nor did I think Isobel would not be staying home with Matthew. She was a nurse, she wants to help people. Why not her own son? would you go away if your only son was now paralzyed and depressed?<br /><br />I've had some fun (and spoilers) by checking out some youtube interviews of the actors. It's so much fun to see them out of character. Yes, Allen Leech is adorable. I'll wait until after the finale before I go looking any more (I caught a bit of the Bates storyline by accident)Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-60484702669623500562012-02-07T15:29:59.344-08:002012-02-07T15:29:59.344-08:00I actually found Branson hot in this episode, whic...I actually found Branson hot in this episode, which is weird for me, since I can't stand him normally.Jonihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916595282859161595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-21399604601281908032012-02-07T13:46:22.727-08:002012-02-07T13:46:22.727-08:00Okay random thoughts:
Violet CRACKED me up with h...Okay random thoughts:<br /><br />Violet CRACKED me up with her manipulation of Isobel. And what was Isobel thinking? Did she really believe they'd let her run Downton again? HA!<br /><br />I do not think Patrick is the real deal. I think he was Patrick's friend and it seemed pretty obvious that he was pumping Edith for additional information.<br /><br />Please oh please don't let Bates be a killer!<br /><br />Robert needs to run away from Jane as fast as he can. I was disappointed he was even entertaining conversation with her. DANGER DANGER!<br /><br />Sir Richard needs to jump off a bridge and I canNOT believe he kissed her after the vile things he said.<br /><br />I'm also shocked at Sybil and Branson. I really thought she was just stringing him along as a distraction. Sigh. <br /><br />Ethel is an ingrate and needs to be written off. <br /><br />So sad that we only have 2 more weeks!247mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406319884413476277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-13947330964032600132012-02-07T10:41:16.094-08:002012-02-07T10:41:16.094-08:00I haven't read this post because I haven't...I haven't read this post because I haven't watched the episode yet...because I totally cheated and bought season 2 at Target today! :)<br /><br />Watching the episodes online stinks (it starts and stops constantly and takes approx. twice as long as the episode lasts to actually watch it), so I can't wait to actually watch the show on my TV. :) I feel guilty somehow that I'm going to spend the evening watching episodes that haven't aired yet in the US. I thought they wouldn't release the DVD until the last episode aired? I remember that's what they did with Emma a couple of years ago.<br /><br />Anyway, I'll be back with my thoughts after I watch it. :)<br /><br />~KristinKristinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592919145644124930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-15153962049610928172012-02-07T10:35:33.434-08:002012-02-07T10:35:33.434-08:00I believe that "Patrick" was NOT the for...I believe that "Patrick" was NOT the former heir to Downton. There was one inconsistency in his story that Edith picked up on when she and Mary were talking about him. It doesn't mean that the character won't come back in S3, but I don't think he was the "real" Patrick.<br /><br />Anyway... that is just my "two cents." =DRissihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11378400717440822186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-72355038362917075752012-02-07T08:22:04.864-08:002012-02-07T08:22:04.864-08:00@Ella - That was the moment. The open collar...oh ...@Ella - That was the moment. The open collar...oh that was nice. :)<br /><br />I really do hope Patrick comes back and we get some resolution there...that was almost too big a bombshell to slip into one hour and then leave it!<br /><br />And I completely agree with you about Mary and Matthew. :)<br /><br />@Charity - Violet is really picking up steam...I was a bit worried the first 2-3 weeks because she was there but the zingers I love seemed strangely absent. Glad that is turning around! :) <br /><br />@heidenkind - After this episode I am 100% behind your theory there... :) And excellent point about Mary...in some respects she is so independent and forward-thinking and yet still very much a product of her time. I just wanna give her a good shake and say forget the reputation, run and save yourself!<br /><br />@Anne - Ohmygosh, how could I forget THAT? Yeah part of me can't believe Matthew is already feeling things but I have to remember each hour is covering weeks if not months of time! And you are so right about Mary...she has made such a wonderful turnaround!<br /><br />@Laurel Ann - I am rather inclined to agree with you about Fellowes' handling of Patrick. It was a bit too forced/contrived. And you're welcome -- and thank you for two of the last images (they link to Austenprose through my Pinterest account). :)<br /><br />@Julie - Oh, I hadn't gone there at all but great thought!!<br /><br />@Debra - To Laurel Ann's point and now yours, the Patrick situation was a bit of a missed opportunity, I completely agree. There'd better have been a point to all this come Season 3! If he IS genuine, I'd love for him to end up with Edith, because I think she really did love him...<br /><br />Completely agree with you about Mary and Matthew...that is as close as they are gonna come to a declaration at this point! *sigh* <br /><br />I'm inclined to think Jane came into the job with good intentions...but now that she's there the temptation seems pretty overwhelming. Poor Robert and his mid-life/emotional issues. He really is adrift with little to anchor or give him purpose.<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by, as always I love the discussion! :)<br /><br />@Polka Dot - Yay! :) We had better get some serious Sybil/Branson time...glad to know another blogging friend is in my corner as far as where Branson is concerned. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-16243540514207416772012-02-06T20:48:26.789-08:002012-02-06T20:48:26.789-08:00Love all of this, as usual. :) Just watched the ep...Love all of this, as usual. :) Just watched the episode and came to hear your thoughts on it, which are invariably pretty much identical to mine. <br /><br />It DID need to be said. I applaud you--he DID look hot. And if they don't kiss before the season's over... I shall be very, very upset.Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506813451259448763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-78672410664751022832012-02-06T20:31:59.504-08:002012-02-06T20:31:59.504-08:00Thank goodness I can end the day with one last loo...Thank goodness I can end the day with one last look toward Downton!<br /><br />hmmm, where to begin.<br /><br />I didn't know next week was the two hour finale! but I'm glad they have the Christmas special coming up.<br /><br />I was a bit disappointed with this episode (can you believe I'm admitting this?) But it's all tied into the Patrick character. If he'd been someone that half the family believed in and the other half didn't we would have been emotionally whipped into a frenzy. Instead, it seemed so unbelievable, there was little drama to it. Why not just give him an English accent (that was also the least Canadian Canadian accent I've ever heard...)<br /><br />I almost wanted him to be Patrick and have Edith happily married and the mistress of Downton. Almost.<br /><br />But the true highlight of the night was the tender scenes between Mary and Matthew. Of course. When he tells her he wouldn't be any where near her if she wasn't engaged... it's basically them admitting their love. Don't you think? <br /><br />Yet, it almost keeps Mary tied to Richard. She at least keeps Matthew in some small way by being his 'neighbor' now.<br /><br />and I agree, I don't know what to think of Jane. She's the biggest mystery of the season. Schemer, or innocent. I'm not sure I believe her story at all but I also don't think she came in just to try and catch an Earl. But Cora's patience is running short this season and Robert has nothing to do but face his middle age crisis as a basic unncessary part of DA. Even Mary reminded him (neither of them blinked) that Carson had 'raised her.'<br /><br />oh well, thanks for providing a place to chat, Ruth! Sure, we all knew Matthew was going to become fully functional sometime. I'm almost surprised it happened so soon. <br />By this time next week, I'll begin detox. maybe.Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-13551144881738372732012-02-06T19:38:32.113-08:002012-02-06T19:38:32.113-08:00I'm wondering if Sir Richard had Mrs. Bates of...I'm wondering if Sir Richard had Mrs. Bates off-ed to assure his future wife's reputation. Sure hope Bates doesn't take the rap for it.Julie Klassenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14705990274394936247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-49559160511325282422012-02-06T19:13:10.124-08:002012-02-06T19:13:10.124-08:00I think that Fellowes really missed and opportunit...I think that Fellowes really missed and opportunity to confuse us even more with Patrick Gordon. We are not sympathetic to the character as he wrote it, but if her had played him as a gentleman who Edith thinks might be Patrick because SHE recognizes similarities and is there by fate, now that would have been interesting. This guy is just unappealing and using Edith's good nature to wheedle his way into Downton. I don't think we have seen the last of him. Thanks for the great review and images.Laurel Ann (Austenprose)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07569869772159241024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-15556861726523903422012-02-06T15:17:23.930-08:002012-02-06T15:17:23.930-08:00Agree with everything you said, but how could you ...Agree with everything you said, but how could you not mention the shocker at the end? Matthew "feeling" something? My husband said last week he thought Matthew would eventually recover and throw everything into yet another tangle and it appears he might be right! <br /><br />It's killing me that Mary has sold her soul to the devil (Sir Richard) when she has come to love Matthew so unselfishly!Anne Mateerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11330467138236037032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-52486429334807424772012-02-06T14:56:11.211-08:002012-02-06T14:56:11.211-08:00Bates WAS a spy during the Boer War. That's ju...Bates WAS a spy during the Boer War. That's just fact. ;)<br /><br />Sir Richard just keeps getting worse and worse! I think Mary's problem is that she always expected to marry for the estate and her family, so she doesn't really know what to do about Matthew. And not to be pessimistic or anything, but I honestly do not see them getting together this season. She's going to marry Sir Creepaziod, and he'll probably beat her and starve her death. Poor Mary!Heidenkindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09494625457587427781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-76229982775786353772012-02-06T14:30:25.030-08:002012-02-06T14:30:25.030-08:00Violet is the best thing about this season, in my ...Violet is the best thing about this season, in my opinion. I loved her manipulating Isobel into finding some other cause in desperate need of her assistance. <br /><br />I still don't know if Patrick was telling the truth. <br /><br />Bates' situation... SIGH. <br /><br />Also? Prepare for the worst. By the end of the next episode, you'll be very angry at one of the Downton cast. =PCharityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15928012771461206094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1319032275293010502.post-73085924450234681492012-02-06T14:27:40.789-08:002012-02-06T14:27:40.789-08:00Is this the episode where Branson goes without his...Is this the episode where Branson goes without his cravat? =D I was very happy with that scene.<br /><br />Yes, Patrick is only in this one episode, so I am inclined to believe that his storyline will come back in Series 3.<br /><br />And wasn't Mary's defending Matthew totally awesome? I LOVED it!!! Those two are so freakin' wonderfulEllahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12361895789616410614noreply@blogger.com